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Search The Warrior Forum Search. I recently bought a course about making money online by selling stuff on UK eBay and Amazon UK with dropshipping. After spending hours researching I could not find anything on the dropshipping sites that met the criteria mentioned in the course.

All the products I was interested in were being sold cheaper on eBay than I could buy them for from dropshippers.

So, my question is does anyone here make money with dropshipping? I got a refund on the course in the end! Auctiondebteliminator 4 years ago. This is something I hear time and time again. And this is a scenario you hear of every.

The problem is you have to take a DATA-based approach to dropshipping! They do this because if they signed up just everyone, their markets would be saturated, and NO ONE would sell products for a profit.

It happened in the early 's and dropshipper after dropshipper went out of business because there was such immense pressure to lower prices on their products. So, dropshippers then started charging membership fees - which also wasn't popular. So, then they started INFLATING their prices to HIGHER than the eBay prices OR the same price they pay.

This is so that people will come to their site and either immediately leave and not sign up with them. They don't want to sign up with just anyone - they tried that before and went out of business. Instead, you have to NEGOTIATE with them a VERY specific price. Now how do you find that specific price? Well, that's a good question.

Because with dropshipping, your margins are VERY thin - and you need to know all deductions that will happen on an eBay sale to make sure you're still making a profit. If you approach a dropshipper by just looking at their price lists and saying: You still need to negotiate a SPECIFIC lower price for them and not just a percentage In fact, you should know not only the PRICE you SHOULD sell it for on eBay, but also the FORMAT This is something I've been teaching myself for YEARS.

However, without a history of selling it's hard to negotiate with a dropshipper anyway. There are other avenues to sell on eBay other than dropshipping with much higher margins that can help you get in the door with dropshippers. Once you cross those sales thresholds, you'll then be able to negotiate more easily. PM me if you want to talk about this a little more. I have a free eBook that I can have you read to give you a good foundation.

Rank higher, sell faster, sell more, and DESTROY your competition with a data-based approach. Quit listening to Guru's-in-training! Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator.

Auctiondebteliminator 3 years ago. Originally Posted by loukee. Do you have a drop ship product Auction debt eliminator? I'm new to this forum but from what I've seen so far you seem to know the drop shipping area better than anyone. Shellg 2 years ago. Hello Loukee, Yes, I do, actually. I created it out of reluctance, actually, though. When I began, I became very successful at dropshipping. I didn't do it the way everyone else tries to do it - because everyone else gets the same results.

No one wants to work with them, or the prices are all the exact same for everyone. I figured there must be some other way. So, I figured it out. But then I got thinking: But then I began thinking: But then - I though - do I want to sell this many items at a time?

Or do I want to sell a FEW items and still get super high margins? So I figured out a way to sell a few items with high margins. And that took me to where I am today. However - I still get people who clamor at my door wanting to know: HOW DO YOU DROPSHIP?! I finally caved to demand and wrote a book on how to do it, and I charge a fair price for it because it does work - because it requires work.

But - as a warning, when you become very successful at dropshipping, you'll always wonder: You always want to cut costs and increase margins and minimize time - Maximize efficiency.

Importexport 2 years ago. Originally Posted by Shellg. Im only new but I have been reading on the forum for a long time. Im trying to decide what to do to sell on eBay and Amazon, but I dont have much cash. Dropshipping would let me get started but what you say makes me think there might be too much work for the money I could make.

Importexport says you don't need much money to start importing from China and the profits are bigger. What do you think? Signature Learn safe overseas sourcing and easy importing from retired veteran with experience exporting since and importing since Id be interested in that book. Have you seen the metrics not myths Adobe youtube commercial? Ajna 2 years ago. Hi, I am also interested in your free e-book.

Bookehost 2 years ago. Anton 4 years ago. Originally Posted by sanhal. KingArthur 4 years ago. Originally Posted by Anton Hi, I'd suggest you send off emails to online stores in the niches that interest you and see if you can get them to dropship for you.

I have found six dropship partners like this. I am currently in the process of starting several stores. I already had one dropship store from a few years ago but only recently decided to try and get into this business in a more serious way. Signature FREE LEADS with voicemail marketing system and EFFECTIVE voicemail marketing training.

We rarely use directories for anything other than brainstorming niche ideas. If you're a member of one, you may as well check it when you start a new store, but going direct to the manufacturer and their distributors is almost always the route you'll want to go to source products.

Importing direct from China is another good alternative, but the factories generally want you to buy in bulk. So this isn't typically your best option when you are just testing or getting into a new market.

That's a better way to go once you are rolling and want to increase your margins. Signature FREE ONLINE COURSE - Learn How to Dropship the Right Way!

My PROVEN ecommerce process, as seen on: Importexport 4 years ago. After enjoying reading this whole thread, the thing that struck me was that you have to find the way that is going to be most comfortable and interesting for you.

There's the old standard, affiliate marketing. There's taking possession of inventory and then selling on ebay and Amazon, which in my mind is like a brick and mortar store except your "shelves" are online. Ultimately, it's like the difference between Walmart or Neiman Marcus - they both have their niche and seem to be doing quite well at it I personally can't stand ebay. I don't want to get into the import model - I'm too old to read the fine print Affiliates don't get paid enough.

As a newbie to drop shipping, I couldn't negotiate my way out of a paper bag. I like the MAP model and I can build my reputation with the distributor to eventually be a preferred seller. That's why I had signed up for alksense's course. Kind of buried the lead there, didn't I However, all those other business models are equally valid and legitimate. If you find one that you like and that you're comfortable with, that's where you're going to ultimately make a satisfying life for yourself.

Igor, I bookmarked your site: Originally Posted by njs Originally Posted by Importexport. Hi Dave, Factories quote big MOQs in order to deter small fry and newbies.

It is possible to negotiate small orders with the right approach. Unfortunately most people approach overseas factories the same way they approach local dropship suppliers. They say "I am starting One of the worst things is that they ask first up "What is your MOQ? Hi, Yes, I do make money from dropshipping. You need to partner with good sites where products aren't being sold cheaper on eBay, either because dropshipper enforces MAP pricing or that you have to look for quality products where the ebay sellers won't have access to prices lower than what the dropshipper offers, and therefore cannot undercut you.

Also, don't forget there are other ways not just price to offer value. Finding good dropship partners is the difficult task. I'd suggest you send off emails to online stores in the niches that interest you and see if you can get them to dropship for you. Signature Global Deals Direct. Hi Sanhal, Yep I am making money online with eCommerce and many people are.

As mentioned above you really just need to find great suppliers to work with. If you already have a product or niche in mind then the best way to get started is to send an email inquiry to them and follow up with a phone call. If you're having trouble finding suppliers they can generally be found with a bit of research: Signature Let Me Build Your Ecommerce Store! Originally Posted by pavv. Vaughn 4 years ago. Thanks for the great tips on this thread guys. So negotiating a good price is key or go with products that don't make it to ebay.

Close-- you have to negotiate a "Specific" price, based on the market value, less the deductions. It CANNOT be arbitrary. Ecommerce Guru 4 years ago. Originally Posted by mahmoudahmed No, and there really shouldn't be. Otherwise you're competing against everyone who is wanting to 'dropship just for the sake of the easiness of it' and not for the profit margin.

These are people who dabble in the prospecting, and quit after a week or two, or at least until they get their first invoice. For the reasons outlined in my reply to Sandy. Markets get saturated, and dropshippers go out of business because of pressure on pricing. That is why dropshippers intentionally inflate their prices and only deal with people who have histories in the business And there are ways of gaining that history.

I've been practicing and teaching this way too long and have seen this mistake time and time again. On eBay, nothing ever sells for MSRP. Never happened once, never will happen in the future. Many dropshippers will lure you in with an MSRP saying "This item will sell for THIS MUCH because it's the MSRP but in reality items really sell for a MARKET WORTH Quite comical when I call dropshippers out on it.

The other thing - about MAP pricing. It's RARE not impossible that items will sell for MAP pricing on eBay as well. Not only THAT - but dropshippers DON'T enforce MAP pricing on eBay to level the playing field for the retailers. They enforce MAP pricing on eBay because THEY ARE SELLING ON eBAY! It's a profitable outlet for them! They want that avenue for themselves! If they were competing with others, then they would lose out on their sales.

AND, if they were competing in that environment with other retailers - pressure to lower pricing to meet the price they are selling it for would be great enough to eventually prevent them from selling that item all together OR, if it got bad enough, it will keep them out of business all together.

Exactly what happened in the early 's with a lot of dropshippers before the 'charge of membership fees' fiasco. Michael 2 years ago. Originally Posted by mattcraven I'm toying with the idea of e-commence or dropshipping. I have been looking at dropshipping for a while but still wary about who to trust on delivery, e-commence I don't know much about so not quite sure where to go from here really.

Also - and this goes for anyone, if you're looking for a place to start, make sure you educate yourself on market worths before you EVER start contacting suppliers.

You need to arm yourself with negotiation armaments - otherwise you let suppliers push you around and set all the rules, when that should never be the case. Not emotions or indecision. Arm yourself with knowledge and you'll go a lot further. On the contrary, I have almost too much fun Julia Russo 4 years ago. I sell some products by drop ship--but I also drop ship my own creations.

My secret is to visit the trade mart shows that cater to my specific market. In every product you can imagine, there is most likely a trade show somewhere that has vendor booths for suppliers and manufacturers. Meet with the vendors, ask if they drop ship. With the economy today, I have seen several who said no a few shows ago but have rethought the idea. Some who require a minimum order will take an order for a smaller number of units with a small surcharge once you have established a relationship.

Beats carrying heavy inventory or when you need a couple of items in a pinch. Get to know the booth workers. They will give you some advice and some will even recommend others who may be able to help you.

Again, research your product's area of accessto sell baby strollers, go to the ABC convention, to sell home products, go to the Trade Marts major cities like our AtlantasMart.

Forget about the online "dropshippers directories"--the only way they make money is stringing you along and charging a fee. One great resource for finding vendors in your area and even by category and by industry is TSNN. When you attend these tradeshows you have potential vendors by the HUNDREDS that you can meet and greet and gather pricelists from. From the piles that you gather you can then do your market analysis from there.

And then arm yourself for your price negotiations. The great thing about having a face-to-face is that you can set up exclusivity if you're the first one there.

Trade shows are great places for people wanting to get their product out in the public, and they might not even have an online presence yet. Literally hundreds of suppliers at trade shows. Lazy Larry 4 years ago. Signature Are You Struggling with Your Internet Marketing Business Im trying in dropshiping business online and i got cash from this business and getting it very simple because we just sell it without any packages.

Originally Posted by danieltexas. Id like to know how your getting your successes as well dan! You need to know market worths, deductions, profit margins, etc. Otherwise, you're in trouble. Many times people are attracted to the convenience - but with razor-thin margins, you sacrifice profitability.

You really, really, need to know what you're doing - or have a mentor that KNOWS what they're doing. The cost can be too high. Both in monetary cost and opportunity cost. Thank you for your sound advice. Is there any course about drop shipping out there that fits a newbie like me? I had been through a lot of financial stress because of health issues. I' m back to life and would like to build up my savings. Originally Posted by ladyhope. AuctionDebtEliminator has a great ebook. Most everyone else posts their income and sales reports which are nearly useless without knowing the price YOU negotiate with the supplier.

He also has a good niche finding tool for eBay. ADE has a great tool to use to determine the price you need to earn a profit. To auctiondebteliminator who said: If you are told not to sell below retail price, and you try, you won't get any products shipped.

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You can negotiate all you want but that does not mean you control the "rules or pricing". The wholesaler is doing you a favor to accept drop shippingthey are more interested in selling multiple units wholesale.

The control you do have if a drop shipper does not allow for decent profit margins is to move to another drop shipper, buy in light bulk, produce the product yourself or find a different product to sell. Those are your alternatives.

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You are exactly right here. If a supplier isn't willing to negotiate their pricing to accommodate the ACTUAL market worth of their item to generate a profit -- I move on. There is no reason to utilize a supplier that will not make you a profit.

After all - a supplier NEEDS retailers - Retailers don't need suppliers, and can always move on. Hence, retailers make the rules -- utilizing market data, of course. I never approach a supplier without this data, because if a supplier doesn't use empirical data based on economic principles and research to run their operations, they won't be in business very long. So if a dropshipper is dead-set on 'making the rules on pricing' - I'll go ahead and let them go out of business themselves.

Just like the huge 'bubble burst' of the early 's when a whole ton of them did when they practiced that idea. And if you're buying items at non-negotiated prices, you're paying too much. TSNN Trade Show News. Turns out they were doing an update - but it is working now just fine. It is a GREAT site where you can find hundreds of dropshippers FACE TO FACE.

Audarah 4 years ago. What I took out of this post, and correct me if I am wrong- is that with MAP, I wouldnt have to worry about negotiating a price, correct?

The price is the same everywhere. Just making sure I am getting this right. Originally Posted by Audarah. Originally Posted by alksense. That's correct if you are selling for brands who have MAP policies. There are tens of thousands of suppliers who's products are sold online and in stores who have all of their retailers adhere to MAP pricing, no matter how much you would like to negotiate.

This is why you see so many situations where small stores have to same exact prices as amazon, wayfair, hayneedle and other online GIANTS. These are the types of suppliers with whom I work with. The set their MAP policies to protect their brands value and not have retailers cheapen it by listing their items at low prices. That's the whole point of MAP and it does not change from retailer from retailer. I've been doing this for seven years and I have never once came across a situation where MAP was negotiable.

That would completely negate the point of the policy. Some suppliers I have worked with let you sell below MAP but only msci emerging markets index constituents you do not list their brand name.

This way their brands value isn't lessened, and suppliers who are OK with making less of a profit can do so. Basically, if you want to sell their products "genetically" they can care less what you sell them for. You can usually view these policies in the dealer sections of the suppliers websites. I know this post is almost exactly the opposite of what the person above me posted but I'm not here to argue with anyone.

I'm just sharing my sevens years of expierence with everyone. Close, Audarah Map prices are assigned to people who have no negotiating power. They are for 'beginners' and who haven't approached a supplier with an understanding of the market worth of the item. Basically, the people that have MAP prices assigned to them are lining the filing cabinets of the supplier and haven't processed a sale at all The people REALLY competitive in the niche product sales from the supplier have approached the supplier with actual costs to acquire-- competitive to the market worth of the item and they came to the supplier with data where they KNEW they could be competitive.

The supplier knew that person knew they weren't just 'some person just signing up for the sake of signing up' and was more willing to work with them because they knew they were going to bring them more business. Much like a CPA network only allows the 'real affiliate marketers' into their networks In a nutshell You can - and should negotiate lower prices from a supplier and throw out all MAP and MSRP prices.

The actual cost to acquire you pay should be based on the MARKET WORTH of your item minus deductions. Markets dictate prices -- not suppliers. When it comes to opinions to each, their own. We've obviously had VERY different expierences when it comes to selling online.

I just find it odd that cometely disagree that brands enforce MAP to protect their brands. I'm not going to release any info about the brands I sell for or the niches I'm involved with but I'll give a generic example of exatcly why brands do enforce MAP to protect their brands Michael Kohrs bags are sold in almost every department store across the country and sold in thousands of Indepedendant retail shops.

When they release a new line of bags they do not negotiate with each retailer big or small and agree on different MAP policies for each retailer. They set pricing MAP and every store big and small has to tag the items at the same price.

The brand has a "higher end" image to protect and THEY set market price for tenn livestock auctions brand. The same is true with all of the suppliers that I work with who enforce MAP. Of course, different ways to make money leis can offer coupons BUT they can not list the items for sale at prices other than those set by the supplier.

The brand supplier sets a fixed market price and all retailers have to adhere to the same. If they didn't enforce such policies their brands value would disappear overnight and no one would want to sell for them because only those willing to make the smallest profit margins would get the sale. But then you need take the market into the equation -- which is the stock brokers plattsburgh powerful force.

And if a supplier 'sets' a texas cattle market prices for an item - but the market doesn't value that item for that price -- then NO one sells it.

MAP price or not. That is why prices are set by MARKETS-- not suppliers. So, when you approach prices based on a market worth, and approach a supplier BASED on this market soybean stock market, then you have a more powerful argument.

Personally, I won't deal with a supplier that would be so rigid as to ignore market data They could stare at it in the face and say: No matter how much they 'value' their brand. See Supplier behavior of the early 's - that was their behavior, and they didn't stay in business P. Eddie Banned 4 years ago. I talked to one of my students on the phone today. He wasn't doing eBay, but building an website and we were talking about this very concept.

He had a number of keywords that he had researched that had great demand and manageable competition and also a sizable pile of pricelists as well. When we were going through the pricelists, I was teaching him how to find the market worth of the items.

We quickly found that the MAP pricing was a full FORTY PERCENT HIGHER than what his competitors were selling it for. Even without his markup! And this was after negotiation attempts were made. Even after this, I told him this was a GOOD sign Because if he was to build a site - blindly accepting the MAP price, he would have never sold a single item. It is better to analyze the market and decide that a supplier ISN'T going to work, then to build a site or eBay store for that matter and wonder why you have no conversions.

All data is good data. And take everything a supplier tells you with a grain of salt. I think there is still money to be made, niche selection is paramount. If we can get away from MAP pricing for a moment and understand the true nature of the question poseddoes anyone make money drop shipping? The answer is Yes or no one would be doing it. The margins are greater than affiliate programs with the tradeoff being a bit more involvement with the customer.

You also boards make money nuan nuance more responsibility for providing up to date information such as inventory of the supplier. Having said that, a retailer who depends solely on drop shipping depends entirely on the suppliers for product, delivery and customer service YOU being their customer. Diversification can ease that restriction of dependence.

Light bulk wholesale IS negotiable. For instance, I found a new supplier and wanting to make an initial buy. This allows me to carry pieces of an item on my shelf I can ship in 24 hrs. We even capitalize on the fact that 24 hr. My profit margin is always larger, even more when I buy fast selling items in bulk. Drop shipping allows me to be more hands free. That is the beauty and the draw of make money with dropshipping process.

The more someone else does the handling, shipping and stocking of inventory the more you will pay for that service at the expense of some profit. It is what you do with the time that "hands free" gives you that makes the difference in making money. Julia Russo is right. Basically, the further down the 'food chain' the higher the profits-- but generally, the larger quantities you buy upfront. Yes, you can make money with dropshipping, but the more cutthroat and competitive is. As you can see with our negotiation discussions!

That is why I don't dropship unless I CAN negotiate with a supplier where I KNOW I can compete better. Otherwise, I'm not interested in being just another fish, in a giant school, within a big ocean. Why would you Drop ship when you can import and have full control over your inventory.

It doesn't make sense. When you drop ship you are limiting and your business. Your business is at the mercy of drop ship merchants. They dictate the price or profit you make per item based on what the market is paying. When you get it from the horses mouth you making the most profit possible from the get go. Plus then you can muscle out sellers you know are drop shipping because you can afford to drop you price.

They can't because there's not enough profit in it because they're getting it from a middle man. You can screw the drop ship sellers into the ground and force them out. Yes it's a doggy dog world out there. When you control your inventory you control the price. Yes, drop ship if you want to make small change. I have to forex news auto click with you todawg Having my money tied up in inventory on the shelf regardless of the lower wholesale price--it ain't THAT much different and then having my time tied up packing and shipping each sale is NOT my idea of time well spent.

If my business were truly huge enough to hire the fulfillment then, yeah, I would buy wholesale because my cash flow and turnover makes it worthwhile.

I fiscal cliff stock market strategy light bulk when I can or have toand for my OWN wholesale offering for drop shipbut drop shipping makes it possible for me to have MORE products to sell. Originally Posted by Julia Russo. Drop shipping is like selling any other product, although if you have a massive competition then you will hdfc forex card usage fighting a losing battle.

ID say find a product with a smaller amount of competition and then find a way to get the items as cheap as your limited competition. This may take a few months of selling items at a small profit margin but will be worth it once your supplier drops your prices. Signature Ladders UK Direct - In conjunction with the HSE and working at height. Igor Pauer 4 years ago. You cannot compare "worst case scenario dropshipping" with "best case scenario wholesale" Please, when comparing something, use ceteris paribus rule, otherwise unexperienced people got bad informations.

There is possibility to hire accountant for fixed costs here in Europe. As our tax laws are x more messy then yours USAI am sure that there is possibility to pay few bucks to accountant in USA too 2. In no way you are able to pack "3 items", print invoice, put it into package, close package, tape package, print address sticker, call postman and give him the package within 10 minutes. We are sending thousands packages, everything is fully automated 15 different printers automatically spitting all documents and even when I am standing behing the employee with whip, they are not able to fully finish package within 10 workminutes.

Consider also stock costs: We are big - what we do not sell in US, we sell to Russia. Bad selling in Russia - we go to Sweden or Kazakhstan, China or whatever. So it is not so easy to say: It depends on situation. I think its four hour millionaires don't quote me on that I know that it's something like that I also hear how much money does esther hicks make is a good product if you wanna check it out I think its only about 27 bucks again Originally Posted by Igor Top binary options brokers 2016 usa zdf. You'd be percent right if I was was talking about wholesaling.

Not much, I know, but it's definitely a huge learning curve as I experiment with different marketing and advertising campaigns. The downsides to dropshipping are you MUST find a good supplier who is willing to hit your target price, but with some aggressive internet research, they can be found. Spend a lot of time doing market research on your products, pricing, vanguard total stock market index fund performance, as well as evaluating suppliers.

Are they willing to negotiate? How is their shipping time? Is their quality of product up to your standards? Do they have good reviews online? What is their refund policy? The last thing you want is to make sales, but have a ton of problems in the back end. First step would be to narrow it down to the type of product you want to sell. When I first started my adult store online, I knew there was a TON of competition, but I figured my value proposition was 1 offering free ground shipping again, you need to have good pricing in the first place to be able to do this 2 building a site that has a clean layout and design unlike most of my competitors.

If you have any questions on dropshipping in general, pm me! Signature Learn How To Get Traffic To Your Site For Free, While Also Earning Commission! I don't think you have to be an 'old business dog' to know that there are other avenues OTHER than dropshipping and wholesaling.

In fact, there are quite a bit of other ways that are not mysterious at all. In fact, you don't even have to build a website to utilize them.

These are, but not limited to, Consignment, Arbitrage, Offline product sourcing, Online product sourcing, Pawn shops, Flea markets, Thrift stores, Garage sales, Manufacturer product sourcing Personal manufacturing Importing Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Not mysterious, secret, nor confined to just wholesaling or dropshipping at all. Stay away from any place that is a dropship directory. You won't stand a chance of being competitive if you use them.

What we teach and what we have always done is first start with the manufacturer. More and more manufacturers are open to the concept of dropshipping now than ever before and if they aren't, they will often tell you who their large bulk buyers and distributors are if you ask. Those how to make money as zumba instructor buyers WILL dropship more often than not.

We have built and sold more than 50 ecommerce dropship websites, selling a number of them for 6 figures. There is no end to the number of niches you can do this with. You can repeat the process over and over again once you know how to do it! Yes, you can make a lot of money dropshipping, but you need to wall street survivor introduction to the stock market the right tools, and avoid the dead ends.

Mainly, you just have to offer low prices, and always keep you website updated to accurately reflect product price base and quantities of your drop ship wholesaler, so you don't mistakenly sell an item that is actually out of stock there. You also will need to market your products, and a good way to do this is with shopping comparison sites, you just send them your product feed. Of course, to do these things you can use: Which handles the automated update of product data feeds, distribution of them to all your sales channels.

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I noticed that most of these wholesale distributors require you to call them in order to open an account. The first question they ask is usually "tell me about your business.

JenniferV 3 years ago. I have been very successful drop shipping, so it is indeed possible. Stock ZERO inventory and make a profit! How do you go about finding the good small suppliers? OliverTrent 4 years ago. It's honestly not that hard to make money with dropshipping, but margins can get really thin on popular products. It's way more effective to go wholesale.

Signature Lover of Ecommerce at eComLab. Originally Posted by OliverTrent. TwinkleToes 4 years ago. I would prefer to sell my own physical products online than doing the drop shipper thing. According to me its risky. I think it is important to talk directly with any people involved with supplying products that you intend to store and ship to customers. Ideally you will meet with the manufacturers face to face and get the products in your hands and have a tour of the factory.

Originally Posted by TwinkleToes. Cymax and a few companies who do similar things make millions annually and are in the top internet retailer. I know I use to work for them as their SEO specialist. Sebi guidelines for forex trading Posted by jbthemummy.

Hi Everyone, I'm new here. I've been lurking and reading Warrior Forum for a while, just never joined until now. I've purchased and read several eBooks, programs, etc about dropshipping, wholesaling, etc. I really feel like I need some better guidance and direction on how to do this. My preference is to sell physical goods from my own website sbut I don't have alot of money to outlay for inventory - which is why I was looking into dropshipping.

Any advice, guidance, tips, or education from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time for your assistance! Originally Posted by iKimComm. Hi Everyone, My preference is to sell physical goods from my own website sbut I don't have alot of money to outlay for inventory - which is why I was looking into dropshipping. NateYoung 4 years ago. Selling drop shipped products online can kase indicators forex profitable if you do it correctly.

I have been selling online for 10 years with drop shipping and selling on eBay, Amazon and other channels. However I have heard a lot of people complain about not being able to compete in the marketplace and still make a profit due to the high prices of some third party drop shippers like Doba. The reason for this is that the drop shippers like Doba are playing the role of the middleman and have to increase the price so that they too can make a profit.

However I never ever use third party drop how much money does a tv cameraman make like Doba for this reason. I go directly to the manufacturer which cuts out the middleman and gives me a competitive edge by getting the prices much lower than I would if I used third party sites like Doba.

However you will still sometimes find that the manufacturer does use a distributor to sell their products to retailers which means their will be a bit of a mark up of just a few dollars above wholesale as the distributor has to also make money but you make money with dropshipping find in these rare instances the markup will not be as high as a third party site like Doba.

I currently have a database of over 10, manufacturers that I have worked with in the past or I'm currently working with that I have collected over the 10 years that I have been selling online. If you don't want to stock and carry products on hand I would recommend that you go to the manufacturer directly as it will allow you to earn a higher profit and allow you to stay competitive.

Most manufacturers these days have a dropship program for their online retailers. However to go directly to the manufacturer you will need a resale certificate if your in the United States or a VAT number if your in another country.

The other thing you will have to keep in mind is that you will now have to keep track of the inventory from each manufacturer.

For mot manufacturers once you sell a few items they will allow you to link your shopping cart to theirs so that way your inventory is automatically updated. Other wise you have to check with each manufacturer on a monthly basis to make sure no products have been discontinued and inventory is available.

I can't stress this enough as if you are carrying a product and its been discontinued and someone buys that product on your site you will find that product for the customer or you will have to give them a refund or a credit towards another item.

During the holiday's this is extremely important. But if you are serious about ecommerce you can find it fun and profitable but you do need good time management skills if you don't have a team working for you. In conclusion I would recommend everyone go directly to the manufacturers.

In a few months I will be launching a membership site that gives people access to my database of 10, manufacturers and distributors plus it will cover channels to sell your products like Amazon, eBay and much much more.

It gives traffic ideas for online retailers along with tools that will help make your business run that much smoother. VAT and resale certificates when going to manufacturers: This information is not correct. VAT is charged in Europe only and resale certificates are in USA only - there are many countries outside those areas - where no VAT nor resale certificates exists.

Igor your absolutely correct and I was already aware of that. I was only talking about the USA and Europe because that is where most of the people who sell products via drop shipping reside and yes not all manufacturers in the USA and Europe require a resale certificate or a VAT but a majority of them do I assure you. I didn't mention that there are some companies that don't require it as I didn't think it was really relevant since the manufacturer or distributor usually does a pretty good job at telling someone that when they inquire about selling their products and I was trying to keep it simple Originally Posted by Igor Pauer.

I did fall on dropshipping business selling on ebay few years ago when I had to stay at home due to high risk pregnancy. And for nearly a year, it did help pay my car and some bills in the house. I think it is a matter of choosing the right products with the right company as well. You don't want to ruin your credibility as an online seller, so make sure you choose the most reliable and compliant dropshipping company! Signature I am bent to provide more value to the marketplace.

Connect with me via my Blog YOU CAN CLICK HERE. Sell on eBay using Dropshipping. To not confuse people. Most manufacturers and manufacturer approved distributors do require a resale certificate for USA based retailers.

For European retailers you need a VAT number. Now to be clear If I'm a retailer in Europe buying products from a USA seller then a resale certificate is not required and nor is a VAT number because the USA does not use VAT.

If I'm a USA retailer buying from a European manufacturer then I don't need a resale certificate or a VAT number.

Now if I'm a USA retailer buying from a USA manufacturer you will have to have a resale certificate along with an EIN number or Employer Identification Number. So Igor is not correct and hasn't done their research properly. Now it is true that there are some manufacturers in both the USA and Europe that don't require a Resale Certificate or a VAT number but those are usually third party distributors and already have the prices way above wholesale leaving the retailer with very small margins.

I have a resale certificate and an Employer Identification Number as I'm in the United States and I do some importing of European products but a majority of my suppliers are right here in the USA. I don't see why any United States retailer wouldn't want a resale certificate because it only costs the same as dinner night out if not less as each state and county has their own fees for obtaining a resale certificate. But the benefits are great as having both a resale certificate and an EIN under my business name allows me to get my products drop shipped at normal wholesale prices and not to mention I get to apply for Net 30 terms using my business credit rather than my own personal credit.

So Igor I'm not sure if you do your selling here in the United States or Europe or somewhere else but your absolutely incorrect. I told you that you were correct in my previous post as you did give a correct partial answer which was some manufacturers and distributors don't require either one depending on where that manufacturer is located but if there here in the United States they are required by federal law to obtain the resale certificate number for every retailer that carries their products regardless if its drop shipped or carried on hand.

The only downfall to going directly to the manufacturer is you might have to submit orders to each manufacturer if you have have 20 orders in a day and they are all from different products and they are not all manufactured by the same company.

Then you will have to submit each order individually to the manufacturer. Beyond that its the only way to go. Kiboko 4 years ago. Do send me a PM as you are ready please. Signature Hungry for leads to your business?

Yes I've made lots of money by dropshipping. Dropshipping is a great business if you do it well. I've started this kind of online business after my adsense account banned. But I did'nt do amazon or ebay. I became reseller of local supplier online store in my country. The key of success of doing dropshiping are: Choose the right supplier 2. Choose good products in term of quality and price 3. Get traffic for your dropship site urgent That's based on my experience.

Sweetcheeks 4 years ago. I personally don't sell items, I drop ship for others because I stand to make more moving more volume than benefiting from getting cheap items and selling them for msrp. I think it's not a bad idea to create your own product and then have others sell it and since you make it you can get it dirt cheap like me.

Originally Posted by Sweetcheeks Joeuspe 4 years ago. Congratulations Sweetcheeks, You have worked out where the real money is in dropshipping. It is not in reselling products supplied by a dropship supplier.

The real money is made by being a dropship supplier. Not everyone can create their own product, so how can they make money selling online? So many posts say there is very little profit in being a dropship reseller. It is possible to double or treble that by buying a small inventory direct from real manufacturers overseas.

I am not an armchair expert. For 22 years until health enforced retirement I ran an importing business that I franchised in four countries. Importers' markups would blow you away if you knew what they make and the good news for readers of this thread is that you don't need a lot of cash to get started as an importer. PaddyM 4 years ago. I've seen a load of opportunities to make money dropshipping. It all depends on the amount of effort your willing to put into it.

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Originally Posted by PaddyM. But you don't buy from Aliexpress. You make direct contact with the factory and ask them the right questions. Try and understand their business. Do they maintain an inventory? What shipping options are available? The key to make them think you are a legit business. If they think you can make them money, you won't get ripped off Buying from Aliexpress may not be the way to make loads of money dropshipping. Many people have lost loads of money buying from suppliers on AliExpress.

Check out the reports on Ripoff Report Scams, reviews, complaints, lawsuits and frauds. File a report, post your review. Although their reputation is well known to those who go to the trouble of checking, I have read some big name WSOs that recommend using them as a source. Some people get lucky and manage to find a genuine supplier, but there are too many bad experiences to ignore.

Why risk it when there are safe sources? NEVER buy big brand names from china This topic is about dropshipping not importing. And it is possible to make money doing it, like KITE said, it's all in the marketing.

I recommend keeping well away from AliExpress.

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When a site allows suppliers in China to list big brand names that should always ring alarm bells. There is a lot more to sourcing, ordering and importing than people will learn by reading forum posts. For example the most commonly quoted freight term is FOB. According to international shippimg terminology, INCOTERMSFOB stands for free on board and it means that the supplier pays all costs to the shipping port as well as any costs involved in having the goods loaded on the vessel.

Wider accepted usage now allows for "vessel" to include an aircraft.

What catches a lot of new importers out is that many Chinese suppliers use the term FOB incorrectly. They mean EXW which stands for Ex Works, and that means that all costs are the responsibility of the buyer once they are lifted off the loading dock at the factory. The cost difference can be huge and can make the difference between what promised to be a very big profit and what turns out to be a very big loss.

I recommend that those who intend sourcing overseas and importing, even in small quantities should learn at least something about importing before they start.

The problem is that many of the eBooks and online video courses I have seen are far too complicated and in my opinion are more suited to someone wanting to become a Customs Broker. Your selling a product that teaches people how to import small orders from China. Of course you will discourage people from dropshpping from China.

If people had the capital and time to start a import, sell, ship business. They probably wouldn't be asking about dropshipping. It's obvious that importing will provide the highest profit.

But you could also be stuck with a product that doesn't sell. Not the case with dropshipping. You make good points about the risk, but there are ways to minimize this. Chinese factories are realizing the potential in drop-shipping these days, especially considering the current economy and currency value.

Another point I'd like to make. A middle man isn't necessarily a bad thing. Especially one that specializes in drop shipping and is willing to assist you in sourcing products, communicating directly with factories and arrange shipping Do you mean that anyone who suggests a far more profitable way of making money in e-commerce should not be permitted to express their opinion on the subject?

Also, marketing is not the whole story. Profit also depends on buying right. Importexport 3 years ago.

It is very, very true. How I began, yes, I was dropshipping. I made some money doing it - and then I always wondered 'where does my supplier get these products? I have been a dropshipper, a wholesaler, an importer, an affiliate, a manufacturer, etc. I've truly done it all. Yet through it all, people still ask me 'So, Auction Debt Eliminator, how do you dropship? That is what a true entrepreneur does.

It's what I did, and I cannot be happier. NateYoung 3 years ago. A good entrepreneur will think outside the box to gain larger profit margins by trying to figure out where suppliers get their products. This is one of the questions a person who wants to get into selling products on eBay or their own store regardless if their buying product to carry on hand or are having it drop shipped.

Due to the fact that most suppliers mark the product price up leaving you with less profit margins is exactly why I chose to go directly to the manufacturer. Originally Posted by NateYoung. Well I sell physical products in the health niche as an affiliate I consider that a form of drop shipping I make money dropshipping. Signature CLICK HERE To Submit A Guest Post On A Popular Health Website. IndianBabe 4 years ago.

Yes, it's possible to make money if you have a concrete plan as how you will market the products you are selling. The hard part of any business is knowing how to market them.

Originally Posted by kite6w. I make good money drop shipping. As you have pointed out marketing and delivering at a profit is the name of the game! I have dropshipped products and I also provide products to be dropshipped.

Either way can be very profitable. To get established and start making money sooner rather than later start with dropshipping other peoples products. Signature "Learn How These " Gurus " Are Making Thousands Of. WATCH THE FREE VIDEO AT PROFITS EXPOSED. I am working on a jewelry site right now and it is basically dropshipping as we speak. However, since it is close to where I work, I will be picking up the items. Having said that, they will in no way allow you to set your own prices if you use their pictures.

Want to know the real reason dropshippers charge monthly fees? Because that is their real business model - not product sales. They know the "download - import to shopping cart - launch a site" model doesn't work.

They make their money on everyone's membership fees, while simultaneously listing every product in their warehouse on Amazon and eBay for pennies over cost. In fact, none of the top eCommerce sites on the web have the lowest prices - you can always find it cheaper on eBay or Amazon. Signature - Ron Rule http: Originally Posted by ronrule.

I completely agree that you do not have to have the lowest prices to win, but it is nice to have a bigger than average profit margin up your sleeve.

That is where buying a small inventory direct from the manufacturer in China can give you an unfair advantage. If you have the ability to fulfill, sure, but I would say that strategy varies based on your margins.

You have to account for your storage requirements and packing and shipping costs as well, so those with thin margins will struggle. The mistake most people make is in thinking they have to have the lowest price. The majority of buyers aren't price shoppers.

They SAY they are, but they pull the trigger on the first item they make an emotional connection with. Alksense has a program that goes into the Dropship strategies and a list of reputable suppliers, you can tell a lot of time went into it. New site owners need to understand loss leaders and upsell chains in order to win. I would suggest finding a supplier you CAN buy quantities from, but not actually DOING it yet until you know how much you can move. It's OK to sell items where you don't make any money in order to establish trust, build a customer base, and be in a position to estimate your volume.

Then when it makes sense to stock some popular items, do it and pocket the savings. I'll also add this It comes from the other stuff you upsell them later. Here's what I mean Now you can re-engage them by promoting another upsell or accessory - one that they WEREN'T looking for. You present your offer, they either buy it or they don't, but the point is they aren't on a quest for a massive deal.

They know your name, your brand, and they pull the trigger. Maybe they bought a Garmin GPS, and you happened to have the lowest price of the day. But when you email them an offer for a second cradle for their other car, or a charger, or other low-priced items where you have great margins, they aren't going to Google it and find the best price, they'll just buy it.

One of my buddies just built the most ridiculous upsell script for Shopify that I've ever seen. For anyone inserted in upselling; if you REALLY want them to convert you should offer them as "one-click" purchases after the customer has already entered their billing info. Obviously upsells will vary widely from niche to niche but one that almost everyone running a drop shipping site can offer is premium shipping.

Thanks everyone for contributing to this post! I am just getting started with alksense's system and I'm very impressed with what I have read so far. I have been in B2B sales for a while now and after having a child and wife that is a chef and works crazy hours it would be great to work from home. So I am at square one pinching pennies, stressed, and ready to get started drop shipping to build a new sustainable business that I alone control or with a trusted experienced partner.

Yes there are people that make money drop shipping but also teaching people to drop ship, apparently. Thanks for all the info everyone and thanks alksense for the support I received so far and the training.

I'm sure I'll see y'all on some beach somewhere soon! Originally Posted by manmeetsfire. WorldIR 3 years ago. Signature Looking for Global e-Shopper Partners I also tried to jump into the industry selling through drop shippers on eBay.

I realized the same thing, there are a ton of the same product with lower prices. What I soon realized was that if I open up my own store, on my own domain, I can sell at comparable prices as eBay, and not have the fees associated with it. One good technique that helps is to sell in bulk. Instead of just selling 1 of an item, group them into groups of 5 or This will not work if you are selling patio furniture, but it works good for smaller items with a low price. Dipole Banned 3 years ago.

Hi; Igor Pauer; I see your silver jewelry shop in european market, so you are in the b2c channel. So when I will make money with dropship,I can not do it with you-then you are my competitor in the b2c market channel too. Please correct me if I be wrong there. Originally Posted by marco Maryjoanne 3 years ago.

Is it okay to order from a distributor? They seem to be easier to find. Manufacturers are a bit tougher. There's no WRONG source for products. As long as your source is reliable and offers reasonable margins they are a good source. That said, we always start with the manufacturer and move down the supply chain from there. I will be honest, I have been making a full time income off of eBay drop shipping so if you do it right and treat it like a real business and not hobby, the money you can make just on eBay is crazy.

You can then use those same techniques in any marketplace other than eBay. I had my first online business dropshipping products. However, I couldn't ever reconcile in my mind that my supplier was somehow getting items for a lower price than what I was getting!

It drove me nuts, and all I wanted to do is find out his source. He masked it well, particularly because he knew I was pretty interested. I asked him flat-out once, and he wouldn't tell me. I was eventually able to find a wholesaler that did sell these items, and increased my profits. However, THEN I questioned: They were also reluctant to tell me, and I never found that one out.

However, because my item was generic no name brand out of it I was able to ship it to a manufacturer in China where they said: From there, I do buy large quantities, and I have container load that empties every 18 months.

It's nice to have the inventory on hand and have absolute control over the item. Shipping times, tracking numbers, etc. If you want to be a top-rated seller on eBay, you have to be quick at fulfillment.

Dropshippers go on vacation, have secretaries that have no idea what their doing as far as fulfillment, etc. I had a mom-and-pop dropshipper at first.

I have been checking on taxes and from what I see, you need to report dropshipping sales, buying from one site and reselling on ebay, as short term capital gains USA and not income. That's a pretty heavy tax burden.